Here's a couple of buddies from fall of 2006, Gary and Rick.....The top buck is a very typical 8 point with a 19" spread. Very nice buck for the area he hunts....buck of a lifetime. Gary arrowed that deer the last week of October one day ahead of us arriving at the cabin. There is was sitting by the window, waiting for us to show up. We walk in and he's just a grin'n......Then we notice that giant hanging in the back yard....Wow!!! Ricks buck came from the same area on opening day of gun season. I was hunting at our farm around home, and at dark, I see a truck drive on the property. Gary and Rick get out and said he killed a nice doe that morning and were dropping it off at the processors. I ramble on about my day, and finally ask to see the "doe". Punks, they got me......Big solid 8 pointer.....Way to go..... You have to remember that were we all hunt is heavily pressured, and most deer don't make it past 1.5 years. Lots of spikes, forks and basket 6 pts are killed every year. Only a few deer make it to maturity, and they are even harder to hunt. There may only be one or two days a year they are kill able. Most are totally nocturnal, and seldom move during daylight. Proper scent control, hunting the wind, keeping the pressure off, being quiet, are just a few of many areas that need to be addressed to kill a big boy. They are not STUPID!!!